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Interview with Shaf De Bass

Reported by Sharon B / Submitted 30-07-03 13:39

This Friday 1st August sees Oblivion celebrating its 1st Birthday at The Fridge in Brixton. From its small beginnings at George 4th to holding its first major celebration at one of London’s most renown venues, this has been one underground party that has captured the hearts of many clubbers and hardcore ravers across the Capital. At the heart of all of this is promoter/producer/DJ extraordinaire Shaf De Bass, who has been making serious waves within the Hard Dance scene over the last few years. Working as a Buyer for Banging Tunes during the week and involved in throwing some of London’s best parties on the weekends, he managed to take time out of his very hectic schedule to catch up with Sharon B to give a little insight into the up-coming party, his new tune out on Fevah records and plans for the new Oblivion label.



Sharon B: Oblivion celebrates its first birthday at the Fridge on August 1st – did you ever imagine that the event would become so hugely popular so quickly and how does it feel to be throwing your party at London’s most renowned Hard Dance venue?

Shaf De Bass: I had always hoped that Oblivion would be successful, but the speed at which it has grown has defied all my expectations. To be honest it was always a dream of mine to be celebrating the first birthday at The Fridge as I’ve had some of my best clubbing moments and memories at this venue, so for it to be a reality is beyond words – a dream come true! It’s always very exciting and the management and production team there are amazing.

SB: How did Oblivion originate? What gave you the impetus to throw your own party? Did you feel something was lacking in the scene at the time to create your own night? How do you think Oblivion was first received? What did it offer that other events at the time lacked?

SDB: I was always planning to start my own night. Firstly, so I could guarantee myself at least 1 set every month, and secondly, so I could do for others what Nadia & Dave Logic did for me by giving other up & coming DJ’s a chance to play out and get heard. It just happened a bit sooner than expected when Gerard (manager of George 4th) contacted me saying the 3rd Friday of every month was available and would I like to promote it? Obviously I agreed, and we launched it with a free party that saw the George almost full to capacity…the rest is history.

SB: You obviously have a dedicated team of people behind you and your event – how much do you credit to others when it comes to running Oblivion? Any special mentions for people who do so much behind the scenes but are rarely recognised in public?

SDB: There are far too many people to mention but Tin Tin, Helen, Janie Mac, Mister E, Mark B, Mark G, all at FTW, Danny Luu, T-Bag, Gerard and all the staff at George 4 and of course Dave & Nadia Logic are the main culprits…even if it’s just by providing moral support and giving me confidence. I’ve also got to mention Potty Lotty who missions it down from Bristol to give us support and has been to almost every single Oblivion.

SB: The first Oblivion party at The Fridge was a huge success. This will be your second venture there, however your event is intrinsically linked with the George 4th – will you continue to remain at the George or is this a sign that you are planning on a permanent move to a large capacity venue for your events?

SDB: I will always continue to have parties at George 4th as that is the home of Oblivion. The intimacy of the venue is what creates the ‘house party’ vibe that Oblivion is all about. What was truly amazing is how we recreated that atmosphere at our last venture to The Fridge and I can only hope we do it again on Friday.



SB: How did you get involved with Dirty DJ’s? They seem to have a huge presence at your events – do the two go hand in hand? How much influence does Dirty DJ’s have with your event?

SDB: I got involved with the Dirty DJs soon after my set at Logic, Camden Palace. I was chilling back stage with Tin Tin when he asked. I thought about it for about 30 seconds and decided it would be a good idea to link the two. We’ve since had 3 parties where Oblivion presents Dirty Djs which have all been extremely successful. There are more in the pipeline and hopefully a monthly Saturday slot at a well known hard dance venue.

SB: You are offering a double-header deal with Twisted for your Birthday event, £15 for entry into both events. This is not the first time that a two-for-one deal has been offered to clubbers however it is a rarity. Do you feel it will have a positive influence on bringing the hard dance scene closer as a community? Why did you choose to link up with Twisted?

SDB: It was actually the Twisted crew that suggested the idea to me and we felt it would make sense to support each other in this way. It’s very important for the scene as a whole to support each other in any way possible, which is why the Logic Network is a great idea and we are proud to be part of that.

SB: Many argue that the scene is diminishing in size at the moment, especially as many large nights and venues have recently closed down, yet Oblivion continues to grow in strength and support. What is your view of the hard dance scene at the moment and why is it that Oblivion is continuing to reach new heights where other nights are struggling?

SDB: Well, as most of us know, nothing lasts forever. Bit cynical but realistic and true. Things are always moving in cycles and constantly changing. Promoters have to make sure they move with the times by keeping line ups fresh and exciting and not being frightened to experiment with the music policy.

SB: As a promoter, if you had the resources to throw your ideal party what line-up would you have and what special “extras” would you have? Are you a fan of stage dancers, jugglers, stilt walkers etc or do you prefer to let the music do the talking and leave the paraphernalia out of an event?

SDB: If I had the resources and a crowd that were up for it my ideal party would be outdoors (preferably on a sandy beach) with a varied line up consisting of Hip Hop, Drum & Bass, House, Techno and Hard Dance DJ’s. It would also have to go on for at least 3 days over a Bank Holiday weekend. Performers of all sorts would be welcome as they’d add to the festival atmosphere I would aim for.



SB: Not only have you had great success with Oblivion as a promoter but you are an exceptional DJ and are constantly booked at many of London’s Hard House events. What first got you into mixing and why did you choose the style and genre of Hard House over other types of music?

SDB: I started messing around on mates decks at the age of 12 with old skool hardcore and jungle. Then moved onto D&B, House and Garage before finally deciding that Hard Dance was my thing? I find it really fun to mix and as the various styles cross over more it’s giving us a chance to mix in some techier tracks into our sets.

SB: You’re mixing is notorious with a serious amount of cutting and when playing out you seem to be very busy on the mixer. Why did you choose this style of mixing? Was it to create a unique sound out of the two tunes that you have or is it because by doing so you create a harder and edgier sound?

SDB: One DJ who I find inspirational to watch is Chris Liberator who works the mixer like an instrument. Getting two records in time is the easy bit, it’s chopping between the basslines and funking up the high hats that I have my fun with. I usually do this more while playing live as it’s the crowd reaction that gets me going.

SB: What do you think of other styles of mixing that DJ’s follow? Do you feel that how a person mixes is a better reflection of their style than their tune selection? How important is tune selection to you and DJ’ing on the whole?

SDB: It’s always interesting to see how other DJ’s bring there tracks in, mix out, cut and chop etc… Most of my inspiration has come from other genres such as Techno and D&B, hence the chopping.

Tune selection is just as important as mixing style and is mostly to do with timing. Anyone can drop a classic but executing this correctly at the right time can set a place on fire.



SB: Being part of the Dirty DJ’s collective you are part of a team that is currently making real waves on the Hard Dance circuit with the likes of Tin Tin, Paul Reeves and Chris Vincent, to name but a few, all of whom have had great success in the last few months playing some of London’s best events. Do you feel there is an added advantage to working as part of a collective and are there any DJ’s on the scene now that you feel will be real “movers and shakers” over the next 12 months? Who should we be keeping our eyes on and why?

SDB: As a collective we all support and help each other, usually by being there for the bigger gigs and dragging the whole crew along. If anyone’s been to a party where we’ve hosted the second room you’ll know what I’m on about. All the Dirty DJ’s work very hard but Paul Reeves, Chris Vincent, Shaun Hull and Tin Tin have really helped raise our profile over the past six months – especially Paul’s antics on and off the decks…Laughs out loud

Another DJ to look out for is Snake who has been making regular appearances at Heat, Frantic and Tasty. I’m very proud that he’s agreed to become our new resident at Oblivion and is definitely a superstar in the making. If you’ve seen this guy out and about you’ll know he’s one of the most approachable DJ’s on the scene and is always mingling and having as much fun as everyone else. We’re hoping to be working closely together over the next few months and have plans to do some joint productions.

SB: You work for Banging Tunes as their hard dance buyer. This must give you an added advantage in terms of knowing what is knew on the scene and having access to tunes many people have to wait months for. How did you get involved with being a buyer?

SDB: I worked at Alphamagic for almost two years prior to working at Banging Tunes. I used to supply most of London’s record shops with promos and new releases so I had quite a good idea of what was selling and by what quantities. This obviously gave me an edge when a post became vacant at the London store. Oz does the buying for the website (www.Bangingtunes.com) which is based in Brighton.

SB: Many of your customers compliment you on your ability to access their style and choice and be able to know exactly what type of tune they are looking for whenever they enter the shop. Is this something that you have always been able to do or is from years behind the counter? Do you ever find yourself intrigued by a DJ from the tunes that he buys? Have you ever gone out to watch a DJ merely from the set list he purchases?

SDB: I suppose it’s a bit like reading the crowd. I usually give a customer a varied selection on their first visit and make a mental note of what stuff they’ve gone for. Then on their next visit I’ll pull out a similar selection and go from there.
I do find it interesting when some DJ’s buy records from both different sections of the store such as techno and hard house as this is what I tend to do but I don’t really have the time to go out and watch them. Some make me CD’s though which I’ll listen to at home when I can’t be bothered to mix.

SB: What other genres and styles do you personally go for? Do you play out styles other than hard house? Is there any difference in your mixing with the different genres that you play?

SDB: If I could afford it I’d be buying records from almost every genre that exists. My collection at home spans from jungle, hardcore, tech/tribal/funky house, techno and hard dance. Depending on what mood I’m in I’ll usually mess with all of them at some point. They all have a certain way that they ‘should’ be mixed but I like to experiment with the lot. It’s all good. Wink

SB: Where would you like to play out that you haven’t thus far and why?

SDB: I’d quite like to play abroad somewhere such as Dance Valley. I do have a few gigs lined up abroad but can’t say too much at the moment. In the UK I’ve always wanted to play for Heat and am very chuffed that I’ve been booked to play for their next ‘Evolution’ party, which is on Saturday 9th August at Turnmills. This will be my Turnmills debut. I’ve also been a proud Logic resident for the past 2/3 years so I suppose I’ve already played for the best party in London.

SB: Who do you admire in the DJ’ing world? Any personal heroes or mentors? Is there any one DJ that you would love to play back to back with?

SDB: There isn’t really one person in particular. When I first started DJ’ing seriously I was inspired by Rubec and Mc Dri Weave as it was a ritual to go to Logic every Saturday for almost 2 years. DJ’s that I love to watch these days are Thermobee, Chris Liberator, Superfast Oz and Nick Sentience. I do have to say that Sterling Moss’s last set at Heat did blow my mind and even Anne Savage was seen watching with her jaw dropping at his turntablism and skills with the Pioneer DJM3000– nice work!



SB: Who do you think is the current face of Hard House? Do you think that there will ever be another Tony De Vit in terms of having a single person represent an entire scene or do you feel that his legacy has left a space for multiple DJ’s to be representative of Hard Dance?

SDB: I don’t actually think there is a current face of hard house. Tony De Vit did things at a time when all was new and fresh and it seems he’s still doing things from beyond the grave. His legacy will continue to go on and I’m sure he’ll be inspiring producers and DJ’s involved in hard dance for many years to come.

SB: You have recently done a tune with Dave Holmes that is going to be released on Fevah records in the very near future, can you tell us what its called and what it’s like?

SDB: The track I’ve written with Dave Holmes is called ‘The Arrival’ and is going to be Fevah’s 16th release on their blue Fevah Trance label. The logo side is a hard trancer with an uplifting anthemic riff and a truly heavy bass line. The flip side is a hard house mix with an element of funk and a few tough hoovers thrown in for good measure. From the reactions it’s been getting it’s set to be a hit – even if I do say so myself.

SB: What was it like collaborating with such a renowned producer as Dave Holmes and do you have plans to go into the studio alone and make your own tunes? More importantly, will you be playing it at your Birthday event?

SDB: It was good fun and an honour to be in the studio with such a well established producer. I will be setting up my own studio in the future but I want this to be done properly and these things take time.

I will be playing ‘The Arrival’ at The Fridge as Oblivion’s 1st birthday is also the launch party for this release. There will be a limited number of promos given out at the end of the night.

SB: What other plans do you have for your future? Rumours abound that you will be creating your own label – is this true and if so when will this be getting under way?

SDB: Yes, the rumours are true. The contracts have just been finalised and signed and we have set a date for the launch which is Monday 22nd September 2003.
The label will work in conjunction with the night and try to represent the sort of music played at Oblivion, hence the name Oblivion – The Label. There will be a launch party at George 4 on the Friday 19th September with loads of freebies, promos etc handed out. I’m also in talks with a party at Cyberdog in Camden to help promote the label.

SB: What styles of music will you be releasing and how much time will you be giving to new producers and up-coming DJ’s in terms of finding and releasing new talent?

SDB: I don’t want to pigeon hole the label to one particular style but will be aiming it mainly at the hard house, hard trance and some of the techno crowd. Every release will have a varied and alternate mix on the flip so it appeals to a more diverse crowd.

There are many collaborations planned for the future and again I can’t say too much, but look out for the likes of Barry Diston from Fidget Records, Banga Matt from Arktik Records and Mister E, who I wrote the first release on the Oblivion label with. We’ll also be working on a Dirty DJ’s collaboration EP and I’ll be doing some bits with Snake in the near future. Busy year ahead basically.

SB: Some people argue that the scene is diminishing due to too much choice but not enough diversity. Too many tracks being produced that are good but not enough that are Anthemic in any way – do you agree with this? Has the scene been watered down by a surplus of average releases? Will this make any effect to you as a record label owner in terms of what you do and do not release? Would you prefer to release say 5 blinding tracks than release a large number of tunes for turn-over purposes?

SDB: There’s definitely been a lot of below standard releases and some stuff isn’t worth the cost of the sleeve it’s put in. Most of the labels responsible for this usually don’t make it past their first couple of releases before they fold. I’ll certainly be thinking about quality rather than quantity when it comes to the Oblivion label.

SB: Which up-and-coming producers do you think we should be keeping an eye on? Anyone in particular that you think you have spotted that has a great future ahead of them?

SDB: I haven’t really had a chance to do my own talent spotting yet. This is something I’m hoping to learn while running the label. New producers to look out for though are Barry Diston and Marc Johnson who have had some blinding releases recently. I’m also very impressed by Danny Gilligan and Todd Tobias’s effort due to be releases as Peroxide 7. Been hammering it for a few weeks now and is a sure floor filler – lovely job lads!



SB: You have been involved in the music world in one form or another for many years now. If the hard dance scene collapsed tomorrow would you still remain in the music industry or would take another route entirely? Have you always wanted to be involved in music or have you had other interests which you considered for a career?

SDB: I’d certainly do my best to try and remain in the music industry as I’ve put a lot into it and dedicated most of my life to it but it all depends on the situation at the time. I’d have to cross that bridge if and when I come to it.

Father De Bass worked in music as a youngster, Mother De Bass was a singing teacher, one of my younger sisters works for MTV New York and the other has had recent talks with Sony regarding her singing career so I suppose it must be something in the blood.

SB: You have done so much and come so far in such a relatively short period of time – obviously you are going to be very busy with the start of your label and continuing success with Oblivion and your DJ career- what are your hopes for the future and where would you like to find yourself in twelve months time? What do you hope to achieve over the next year?

SDB: I’d like to see Oblivion continue growing and want to be able to keep booking up and coming DJ’s as well as more established bigger names. In 12 months time I’d very much like to be celebrating Oblivion’s 2nd Birthday in conjunction with a special ‘birthday release’ for the label. This is if I’m not jet setting on the Oblivion World Tour…Laughs out loud Wink

SB: A thread was started on Harderfaster asking the members to post questions to pose to you. Some were unprintable Eek! but others are below and listed by HF member:-

Danny Luu: What advice would you give to bedroom DJs who want to play out in London?

SDB: Go to the parties you want to play at and meet the promoter in person. It makes a big difference and is easier to follow up.

PottyLotty: Any thoughts on a funky house room when you do Oblivion at The Fridge any time in the future?

SDB: Not at the Fridge. I just don’t think it works at the venue. It’s brilliant at Turnmills or Heaven but I don’t think it would work at the fridge.

Paul Reeves: What comes first, Shaf de promoter, Shaf de dj, or Shaf de producer?

SDB: They all come together, hopefully one will help the other.

Spidergirl: What did you think are the best promotions around at the moment?

SDB: I’m loving the smaller venues and all the recent enthusiasm for underground warehouse parties…not any one promotion in particular.

PottyLotty: What were you're biggest musical influences when you were young?

SDB: When I was a kid my mates where divided into two groups. Those who like heavy metal and those who liked hardcore (hardcore). There used to be fights over this and it all depended on if you wore leather or dossy posse, blue bolt, toking, etc… I was part of the ‘hardcore’ crew although it’s probably safe to admit now that I also loved my metal and rock.

SB: Any last comments?

SDB: Big massive shouts and more love than is printable to everyone that has supported us in any way whatsoever. All your support is very much appreciated and if you do come to a party do come over and say hello. You’re more than welcome to buy me a drink also – don’t be shyWink – this monkey don’t bite (usually).



Special mention for Gareth (The Chin), Lee Stacy, Warehouse Rats and the rest at Alpha. Also to Hills and Sol at Upfront and Voy at Bubblejam.

Extra special thanks to Nadia and Dave Logic and Gerard from George 4 who without their help and support from day 1 I would not have been able to do any of this.

See you all this Friday 1st August at The Fridge for a party that will go down in history. Mmmwwah!




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Comments:

From: Paul Reeves on 30th Jul 2003 17:54.33
shaf, i had no idea of the origins of oblivion, well i knew a bit but this is a great interview, ur answers are well thought out and informative.
you've been a very busy moneky ain'nt u m8, all ur hard work is coming sweet Wink

Not worthy... Not worthy...

shazza mcbazzaness the 3rd (twice removed) and countess of flipflop

Wink Mmmwwah!

From: Mr Mark on 30th Jul 2003 18:05.16
haha Shaf likes rock and metal

From: Marc Johnson on 30th Jul 2003 18:27.47
good interview,good luck with the label

From: ~deleted1390 on 30th Jul 2003 20:42.46
Nce interview. Happy Birthday Oblivion. Big grin Thumbs up

From: babyred on 30th Jul 2003 23:00.41
congratulations on ya 1st birthday & best of luck for the label, Oblivion is totally stomptastic, cant wait for friday!

From: Merc on 31st Jul 2003 07:25.39
Nice one, sweetie! Thumbs up Misssin the monkeys big time! Mmmwwah! Happy Anniversary!

From: Hels on 31st Jul 2003 07:54.04
'happy birthday to u ,happy birthday to u, happy birthday to u , i saw a fat monkey ....& i new it looked like you ! Shocked
Claps Hands Nice work ! lovely job ! ...... keep up it up u ! Thumbs up


From: Zi on 31st Jul 2003 08:09.43
Interview is good, but the members section is piss poor ! 5 member questions put forward ? You should have posted a link to the thread instead. Anyway, Welldone to Shaf !

From: carl nicholson on 31st Jul 2003 08:19.32
Nice one buddy!

From: Ian Betts on 31st Jul 2003 08:39.50
Wicked stuff Shaf and Sharon, really interesting Thumbs up Good luck with the birthday, the label and everything Smile

From: Danny Luu on 31st Jul 2003 09:17.02
Wow!!! I got a mention!! Hyper!

Well done mate. I hope to be celebrating Oblivion 5th Birthday in Brixton Academy with you on main stage Thumbs up

From: Stakker on 31st Jul 2003 10:08.31
Good luck. Its going to be speshul!

From: Janie Mac on 31st Jul 2003 10:42.08
Well done baby, so proud of you. You're a real superstar and I love you LOADS!!! In lurrve In lurrve Mmmwwah! In lurrve In lurrve

From: Sean Campbell on 31st Jul 2003 11:00.03
Shaf you are a fooking legend,nice 1

From: *cheeky chick* on 31st Jul 2003 11:16.34
good on yer shaf.
i will get my ass up to one of your events even if it kills me.
good luck in the future.
Wink

From: Norris123 on 31st Jul 2003 11:59.00
Thank you all for your kind comments and I hope to see most of you on Friday. Cheers! Here's to loads and loads more fun...Wink

Mongoose, alot of the questions asked by HF members have been covered in the interview so I thought it pointless to repeat myself. I was also very pressed for time so I answered what I could.



From: Matt Church on 31st Jul 2003 12:51.38
Wicked review, well done keep up the good work, and good luck on the Birthday!!

From: Joeyxx on 31st Jul 2003 13:00.29
Nice one babes xx

From: Sharon B on 31st Jul 2003 13:08.36
Many thanks to Shaf for taking the time and effort to respond to my questions so well. Thumbs up Big grin Good luck for Friday and can't wait to get my hands on your new track! Hyper! DJ

From: Bonkers on 31st Jul 2003 14:26.49
Quality...
I hope it all goes well on Friday, best of luck mate!!! Smile

From: Newzkitten on 31st Jul 2003 14:44.06
Shaf you are one of the true gems of this Industry, and a much loved and respected friend.

From: Paul Henry on 31st Jul 2003 14:58.36
Nice one Shaf, keep up the good work!

From: James Jaye on 31st Jul 2003 15:23.40
nice one bruvvaThumbs up

From: LOULOU(umustdoya)LINES-SCRASE on 31st Jul 2003 16:19.27
HELL TEL, WELL DONE- PS YA MUM XX

From: Lizzie Curious on 31st Jul 2003 16:20.34
indeed, I echo all the lovely jubbly sentiments of those above - tiptop interview, nice1 Shaf & Sharon
xx

From: Ped on 31st Jul 2003 17:55.15
Father & Mother de Bass Laughs out loud quality! Big grin

Nice one mate - will see ya tomorrow Thumbs up

From: ~Charlotte~ on 31st Jul 2003 17:55.50
Luv You Man!!!!!
(Thanks for the mention).
You're gonna be a supa-star!!!
xXx

From: Danny Gilligan on 31st Jul 2003 20:57.07
nice interview Shaf, straight from the heart son big up ya chest ;o)

From: Exiled Angel on 1st Aug 2003 09:02.09
Likewise I had no idea how Oblivion got going, well done for a busy and productive year babe! Big luv, see u tomorrow for a mad sesh of tequila and stomping hey? Big grin Mmmwwah!

From: Steve Prince on 1st Aug 2003 13:41.56
ye good luck in it all

From: Stevi D on 1st Aug 2003 15:14.12
good work Shaf and i wish u all the best of u luck for the future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: BottleofWater on 1st Aug 2003 16:07.21
Save me some nuts will you Shaf?

From: Jam Gorilla on 1st Aug 2003 21:17.30
Happy Birthday muppet supreme!...
Keep bangin'

From: VOID on 3rd Aug 2003 01:58.34
happy birthday.. i'm still proud to say i was there on the first night.. and it was brilliant.. its a shame I'm not in England to be able to go to one a year later.. Have fun x xx

From: Neil C on 4th Aug 2003 10:42.57
Add your comments here !

From: slacky on 5th Aug 2003 22:36.37
Well done dude! Allways good to read about the decent people passionate about the dance scene. respect.

From: Norris123 on 6th Aug 2003 12:42.57
Thank you again for all your kind comments...and I meant it about buying me the drinks...WinkThumbs upBounce
Also am always interested in feedback and how to improve things for the parties so email me at shaf@dirtydjs.com DJ

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